Civilization 6: ENTRIES for 2nd Round CLOSED

[Alaen]

There is only one thing con-wise I would contest.
I don't think (Very) Magic Poor should be Civ-wide. It doesn't make sense that a very magical race like Drow suddenly don't have any casters, just because there are some Maeterra around.

[Kelten]

lets see...
5+6+1+6+4+1+6+5+5+5+4+2
N E G E G E E N N N G N (winner neutral, leaning a bit mor to evil, but not by much)
T T L T T L T T T T T L (almost everyone is true something, only a vere few lawfull, and no caotic)
Id say the starting should be true neutral

[Aegis J Hyena]

I'm leaving it as Lawful Evil for now. It's a finger's width from Neutral Good though so if you want to assume that, I don't have a problem with it.

As for Very Magic Poor kicking in, that's just how things ended up (it just means a potentially low magic civilization, but what mages you have are -powerful-. That's how I read it right now.)

[madmartin26]

What i get from this is that we don't get along with people very well, we have some weaknesses, and we're only passably good at arcane and divine casting, but we are INCREDIBLY resilient and can rebound from practically anything immediately.

I also have some confusion at lawful evil. We may tend very slightly in that direction, but if feel like we still are mostly neutral.

[Kelten]

its because aegis system is a bit random in if we are good, neutral or evil.
also, aegis miss counted....
5+6+1+6+4+1+6+5+5+5+4+2=50
50/12 is ruffly 4.2= Neutal good

edit: if we removed all good races and made this check again, we would still be NG

Lallala! We arent evil! Dont mind the heads on the spikes!

[BadgeAddict]

I think we are severely limiting ourselves by being able to eat only water. What happens if the ocean we sail upon was made of oil, or sand, or air....I want my people to eat real food dammit.

[madmartin26]

its because aegis system is a bit random in if we are good, neutral or evil.
also, aegis miss counted....
5+6+1+6+4+1+6+5+5+5+4+2=50
50/12 is ruffly 4.2= Neutal good

edit: if we removed all good races and made this check again, we would still be NG

Lallala! We arent evil! Dont mind the heads on the spikes!

I was wondering about the addition system a little bit...

[nikohl]

Nikohl -- You've got Phoenix. I don't have a problem with that. A Metis is a surprise... let alone Alpha of the pack? o.O I'm surprised Eater of Spiders wouldn't eat HIM too.
*looks at the names* Someone must have read the Silk And Honey and Locus webcomics (someone named "Eater of Spiders" is a Wight in those stories)
As for being more than one Silver Pack, it's a big world. Maybe one to a continent or something; the idea of one only never sat well with me. I'd say you still bear the mantle of Silver, though you won't meet another Pack of that rank, so to speak.
I'm going to be playing Garou as "lawful, more druidic" versions of normal werewolves. I don't know a -thing- about Gifts or anything else, it's been too long and I'm not interested in adapting everything from the original rulebooks online. You'll get powers and stuff before the game starts, but it won't be like anything you're used to from the books.

Locus is one of my favourite webcomics! Eater of Spiders is going to be very much like Uncle Spook in my head

I have a bit of a fluffy background as to how the Metis got to play, let alone become Alpha - I shall chat to you about it and see what you think. I knocked a full cup of coffee all over my office today and just spilled boiling water all over the kitchen so I'm not going back on the computer tonight, I can just see me completing the trifecta of clumsyfuck and ruining something expensive today has been a bad day.

[Aegis J Hyena]

Oh good lord... Eater of Spiders as a Garou is... I don't know whether to be surprised, amused, or running in fear. You did read Silk and Honey, right? The prelude to everything?

Heh. I laughed harder than I should have about your unfortunate clumsyfuck.

Still, a Metis as the leader of a Silver Pack... the Silver Fangs must be -pissed off-...

[BadgeAddict]

Can you guys answer me this at least....why not mundivore (would still let you eat water)

[BadgeAddict]

Let me know if i missed anything...

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You may choose 4 "cost" of Tweaks
(-1) 7 - H20Vore (Bahamut, Dlover, Madmartin, DaveCom, D34d, Gathers, JibJib)
(-1) 8 - Redstone (Alaen, Kida, Badge, Dlover, NewOne, Kide, JibJib, NewOne)
(-1) 5 - UnderDark Connections (Bahamut, Madmartin, D34d, Dlover, Kelten)
(-3) 5 - PRO (Gathers, Badge, Kide, Nikohl, NewOne)
(-2) 4 - Interracial+ (Chuck, Madmartin, SVM, Davecom)
(-1) 4 - Space (Kelten, D34d, Saru, Quarg)
(-1) 3 - Claws (Alaen, Dlover, SVM)
(-1) 3 - Toxic (Dlover, Bahamut, JibJib)
(-1) 2 - Valley (Quarg, JibJib)
(-1) 2 - Dead Magic Zone (Bahamut, Kida)
(-1) 1 - Carnivore (Kelten)
(-2) 1 - Celestial Event+ (Alaen)
(-1) 1 - Giant (kelten)
(-1) 1 - Lava Layer (SVM)
(-1) 1 - Low Magic (Kida)
(-1) 1 - Nightstalker (Davecom)
(-1) 1 - nomadic (Chuck, Madmartin)
(-1) 1 - Population- (Chuck)

[NewOneAround]

change votes to
Redstone
Pro

I'm in for Lawfull Evil pirates! Great stuff.

Mundivore is actually superior to h2ovore IF it allows us to eat water.
I did read it as: you can eat earth, wood, meat, bones, toxic slag, skaven and whatever, but it needs substance.

[nerdsavant]

My tweak votes:

Pro
Claws

I'm down with some Lawful Evil piracy.

[nikohl]

I did read S&H, yeah. I'm not into Godslayer yet - not in my budget - but I will probably try and get it in its entirety when it is finished.

[Aegis J Hyena]

I did read S&H, yeah. I'm not into Godslayer yet - not in my budget - but I will probably try and get it in its entirety when it is finished.

Likewise. I commissioned him for artwork one time, and he said he didn't think he had the talent to do it. Heh. I think Locus was better than S&H but I'm -no- fan of westerns.

And yes to the others --- Mundivore includes water. It's an "eats-ANYTHING" sort of thing.

Not gonna comment about Pro... heh. I probably should have made it a 50% instead of full 100% since Loner is only 50%... (and with Best of Both Worlds that'd just increase to 80% anyway...) So even if the Aspects advance at 1/3 or 1/4 speed or whatever, this makes up for it nicely...

[NewOneAround]

@all: could you change h2ovore to mundivore? I do not see why not.

@badge: you added my redstone vote 2x

[Davecom3]

That calculation of alignment seems way off base. Are we really saying that LE is closer to CG than LG?

Seems to me both axes should be calculated separately. Trying to calculate both axes together results in somewhere two totally different alignments not being the farthest apart from each other.

And go ahead and switch my Aquavore to Mundivore.

[Aegis J Hyena]

Meh, alignment is all in how you act anyway rather than some silly calculation. Definitely balancing the good/evil axis with dwarves and drow, methinks. Maybe your alignment should be "neutral selfish" or something. Heh.

[Dlover]

Aegis makes a good point...with deviant diety being a tweak we now have, do we want to be reliant on only h20 as food? im removing my vote for h20vore.

It pisses me off that all of you are willing to screw up the normal food habits of all races for what you think is beneficial....

And you were willing so screw up the use of all races because you believed it was beneficial not to have skaven. So shut up and sit down. I'm more than happy to work things out and make changes when people give reasons, but I am aiming to support our civilisation as a whole, so I don't give a damn about what the races would normally do or eat.

I think we are severely limiting ourselves by being able to eat only water. What happens if the ocean we sail upon was made of oil, or sand, or air....I want my people to eat real food dammit.

We'll be on water. Stop it with the ifs and buts. There's a reason this stuff is put to a vote; so the popular opinion wins out.

Can you guys answer me this at least....why not mundivore (would still let you eat water)

There you go, Badge. This is how you make people change their votes. You present a good alternative, rather than just complaining about not liking it. As for why nobody voted for it; because the mundi part make it look mundane, and we don't want to be mundane. Now, with Aegis' confirmation on consuming water:

I'm changing my votes to;
(1) Mundivore
(3) Pro

[Davecom3]

Minotaurs start as what alignment? I can calculate alignment if you wish.

[Bahamut]

Yeah, swap to Mundivore, Pro.

[Kelten]

...
i dont think mother was a dragon.
Cockroach, yah thats the word im looking for. We are the kids that survive anything... And eat anything...
Oh god.
thats even worse then living on H20...

Pleas say that we at least can enjoy a meal, and have a feast, not just munsh away on wood and plaits with equal enthusiasm as roasted apples and ham...

[Davecom3]

Plenty of stuff to feast on.

[Dlover]

We can eat anything, but who's to say we can't enjoy good food?

[BadgeAddict]

Let me know if i missed anything...

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You may choose 4 "cost" of Tweaks
(-3) 7 - PRO (Gathers, Badge, Kide, Nikohl, NewOne, NerdSavant, Dlover)
(-1) 6 - Redstone (Alaen, Kida, Badge, NewOne, Kide, JibJib)
(-1) 5 - UnderDark Connections (Bahamut, Madmartin, D34d, Dlover, Kelten)
(-1) 4 - H20Vore (Madmartin, D34d, Gathers, JibJib)
(-2) 4 - Interracial+ (Chuck, Madmartin, SVM, Davecom)
(-1) 4 - Space (Kelten, D34d, Saru, Quarg)
(-1) 4 - Claws (Alaen, Dlover, SVM, NerdSavant)
(-1) 3 - Toxic (Dlover, Bahamut, JibJib)
(-1) 3 - Mundivore (Davecom, Dlover, Bahamut)
(-1) 2 - Valley (Quarg, JibJib)
(-1) 2 - Dead Magic Zone (Bahamut, Kida)
(-1) 1 - Carnivore (Kelten)
(-2) 1 - Celestial Event+ (Alaen)
(-1) 1 - Giant (kelten)
(-1) 1 - Lava Layer (SVM)
(-1) 1 - Low Magic (Kida)
(-1) 1 - Nightstalker (Davecom)
(-1) 1 - nomadic (Chuck, Madmartin)
(-1) 1 - Population- (Chuck)