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Post by Zathyr » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:46 pm

To me it just looks like where his eyelid meets his forehead.
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Post by willpell » Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:00 pm

I found out there's something in Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles" which I never noticed before....
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Post by Miryafa » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:06 pm

I just realized that Reality 88 belongs in GM Dickery Horror Stories, considering all the goblins there are super-monsters and the PCs pretty much only exist for the GM to kill. I wonder if that was Thunt's intention.

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Post by Kamos » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:49 pm

I was unaware the Shield of Wonder might have had inspiration. #9
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Post by EffettoNotte » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:54 am

Zathyr wrote: Zathyr
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Zathyr wrote:... I don't see it.
Forgath has another eyebrow, one made of skin or very fine hair, right below the raised one.
Just like Zathyr says, i think it's the eyelid... :)

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Re: Things You Never Noticed Before

Post by Glemp » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:58 pm

When Ears had Chief's Bull's Strength on him, his eyes went part-blue as well as his armour: http://www.goblinscomic.org/10292010-3/

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Post by Zathyr » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:29 am

I know Thunt is pretty detail-oriented with his art, but it's only now that I realized (with the addition of the coiled tail as part of the site's artwork) that the specific pattern of barbs at the end of Complains' IME tail remains consistent. I really shouldn't be surprised..
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Post by YalaYalaGetDolla » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:14 pm

Glemp wrote:When Ears had Chief's Bull's Strength on him, his eyes went part-blue as well as his armour: http://www.goblinscomic.org/10292010-3/
Adding on to this (and the whole "blue vs white shines" debate from a page or two back):

http://www.goblinscomic.org/10122010-3/ Chief casts Bull's Strength, and Ears's armor/eyes take on his IME color partially

http://www.goblinscomic.org/10152010-4/ The glow is gone from the armor (so is the yellow, might just be because it's powered down), but there's still a little blue in his eyes.

http://www.goblinscomic.org/11192010-2/ Powers back up to rescue Chief, the yellow and blue glow is back AND his eyes are almost fully blue

The blue glow is still there (most recently here http://www.goblinscomic.org/01292014/ ) , even after Chief dies. In story it likely hasn't even been an hour since Bull's Strength was cast. It may fade later on, which...kinda makes me sad. If IME's are the "color of your soul", losing it'd feel more like Chief's gone for good.

I will never be over that. :becry:

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Post by SamWiser » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:57 pm

Well, a lot of people seem to think that Chief will come back, though maybe as another character. That would depend on him being a pc or not. Personally I think he's a npc and he's gone for good. It's sad, but it makes his death much more meaningful.
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Post by RocketScientist » Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:23 pm

^Agree.

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Post by YalaYalaGetDolla » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:07 pm

Yeah. :( I'd name my firstborn after Thunt if Chief came back for realsies, but he's probably gone for good. Which is always gonna be heartbreaking.

Also, unless something went down between them escaping Brassmoon with the freed prisoners and encountering Kore, the poor sumbitch died a virgin because apparently the universe hates him. http://www.goblinscomic.org/01032009/

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Post by Gryphonic » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:04 am

YalaYalaGetDolla wrote:Also, unless something went down between them escaping Brassmoon with the freed prisoners and encountering Kore, the poor sumbitch died a virgin because apparently the universe hates him. http://www.goblinscomic.org/01032009/
I always found it odd that, in a race where heredity is sometimes valued - as shown by the whole civil war warning if the next clan chief was Thaco instead of Kills-A-Werebear's son - Chief had nearly hit middle age without fathering children. I understand that's probably in large part due to their rule about females in warcamps, but if anyone got a pass on that, you'd think it would have been him. :shrug:

Do goblins just not reproduce until they've survived enough battles? That could happen as a 'survival of the fittest' philosophy in the name of bettering the clan, but that also risks having too many males wiped out in a chain of rough years to replenish their numbers.
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Post by YalaYalaGetDolla » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:14 am

Gryphonic wrote: I always found it odd that, in a race where heredity is sometimes valued - as shown by the whole civil war warning if the next clan chief was Thaco instead of Kills-A-Werebear's son - Chief had nearly hit middle age without fathering children. I understand that's probably in large part due to their rule about females in warcamps, but if anyone got a pass on that, you'd think it would have been him. :shrug:
Maybe it has to do with the whole "worst chief of the clan's history responsible for the clan going from prosperous and feared to easy XP" thing? It's possible none of the females wanted their kids to be the offspring of such a weak leader.

Which seriously sucks. Again, the universe hates the poor guy. He never asked to be Chief, he was just branded as one because a slow decay was the better option than a quick bloody schism, and it looks like he's had to suffer for it his entire life.

RIP Chief, hid fast and died a virgin.

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Post by MakesNoSense » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:50 am

I still don't think that Chief is dead for good. He lies about having a shattered spine etc... because he knows someone has to delay Kore so that the others can get to safety. So, he sacrifices himself. But, Kore made the others come back for him, and his sacrifice ended up being in vain from that perspective. All it did was show that he was a goblin who would sacrifice everything for his clan, show that he could in fact live up to his name. But, what good is that if he is dead.

He might be dead, but from a story-telling perspective, I think his return would have more meaning.

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Post by YalaYalaGetDolla » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:48 pm

This has probably been spotted by everyone, but it only just jumped out at me:

http://www.goblinscomic.org/10302012/ Last two panels

http://www.goblinscomic.org/11132012/ Second and third panels

Same dialogue, exact opposite situations. Duv's scene is dark and backlit, Dies's new arm is glowing brightly front and center. Thunt's a genius.

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Post by Erix » Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:56 pm

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but Complains' IME, now that he's part demon, sure looks like a snake tail. A "serpent" if you will. And he has become the prey of Foregath and Minmax since they left the Maze of Many.

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Post by SamWiser » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:26 am

Erix wrote:Not sure if this was mentioned before, but Complains' IME, now that he's part demon, sure looks like a snake tail. A "serpent" if you will. And he has become the prey of Foregath and Minmax since they left the Maze of Many.
It has been brought up once or twice, but I don't buy it. Mainly because it doesn't really look like a snake. This has scales and a pointy end, while snake tales are smooth and aren't that pointy. It looks more like a demon tail, which would make sense with his recent change into part demon.
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Post by YalaYalaGetDolla » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:53 pm

Aaaand another (I'm either on a roll or really slow).

Earlier in this thread, someone asked if any of the other GAP members noticed that Saral Caine wore the clan's symbol. Most agreed that Chief was the only one, and the other's didn't hear him when he realized it.

http://www.goblinscomic.org/09192006/

Maybe he wasn't.

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Post by Krulle » Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:57 am

We haven't had a resolution of how Saral got the symbol.
We might still get to see that. I sure hope so.
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Post by MakesNoSense » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:00 am

Krulle wrote:We haven't had a resolution of how Saral got the symbol.
We might still get to see that. I sure hope so.
Oh... I always sort of assumed it had been Thaco's, taken from him when he was tortured in Brassmoon. I figured a new one was crafted for Chief because he was not really supposed to be the chief, and Thaco (who was supposed to be chief) had taken it with him when he was younger and left the clan.

I guess there might be a deeper backstory for how it came to Saral Caine tho :)

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Post by Krulle » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:28 am

That's a theory I thought of too, as it would be straightforward.
But there's no mention of Thaco having lost his symbol, or having had the symbol taken from him.
And if it had been taken from Thaco while he was imprisoned/tortured, it would likely have landed in the collection of Dellyn Goblinslayer....
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Post by MakesNoSense » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:11 am

Krulle wrote:That's a theory I thought of too, as it would be straightforward.
But there's no mention of Thaco having lost his symbol, or having had the symbol taken from him.
And if it had been taken from Thaco while he was imprisoned/tortured, it would likely have landed in the collection of Dellyn Goblinslayer....
Well, maybe Saral claimed it for his own? He and Dellyn were friends/companions after all.

As for no mention, Thaco has never really gone into great detail about his past either... he seems to prefer hiding it all away. With Chief having a new crown anyways, perhaps Thaco felt it was best left forgotten?

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Post by Knucklekraken » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:39 am

While that's possible, I feel like it would be better, storywise, if it came from outside the clan. The implication of a larger, perhaps forgotten meaning is too fun to pass up, imo.
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Post by SamWiser » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:23 am

Also, Chief would know that a new crown was made for him most likely. Chiefs reaction seems more like shock at seeing it outside of his own crown. If he knew that Thaco lost the crown, he wouldn't be as surprised to find it with Saral Caine.
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Post by Krulle » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:41 am

How much contact do the warcamp and the clan have?
Maybe Saral and Dellyn did kill the whole clan while the warcamp was away, and so the warcamp members still do not know....

It's a theory spooking in my head for a long while now, and I've always been afraid to voice it....
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