October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

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October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by Lurks_In_Shadows » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:59 pm

https://www.goblinscomic.com/comics/166 ... Page17.jpg

Interesting concept of time. If Minmax perceived all of time simultaneously in that hallway, he should have also seen the solution to the door. Provided someone asks him before he forgets.... And introducing "Bottleverse!" I wonder if Minmax has any buffs from having a universe full of believers?

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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by Hope_Caswell » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:49 am

Some pretty awesome philosophy here. This is pretty definitely the coolest hallway in the entire dungeon. Hopefully Minmax and Kin will now GTFO, though perhaps first Kin can slow time to a crawl so they get to spend a little quality time together while Kore remains motionless outside.

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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by Generic » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:07 am

Well. That was some stuff. Stuff sure got introduced. Pretty backdrop for some shenanigans. Until then though, this progresses the story how exactly?
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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by Icalasari » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:55 am

...Herbert is NOT a good DM, even with it being localized, you can use that door to HORRIBLY break campaigns

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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by Bapuvitttssf » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:05 am

Icalasari wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:55 am ...Herbert is NOT a good DM
Well, that's a well known fact since the beginning of the comic.

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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by DrinksTea » Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:07 pm

So Kin's tail is still the invulnerable one... but only when she leaves the hallway??? Why do I get a feeling that Minimax is wrong when they can't take any changes with them. He's going to bring the bottle with him, right?

Still not sure why the hallway only acted like a perception filter for Kin when she was Princess Blanket, but every other change both characters have been aware. It kind of suggests that the whole hallway is only creating illusions. Kin got added to the sees-illusions-list when she decided to be Princess Blanket. Minimax got added when he decided Kin had legs (that one is still the worst page ever).

If changes do persist they need to break the hallway before someone evil with decent intelligence finds it. Can you imagine Kore in this hallway!?! Easy to break if changes persist: place a rock in the middle of the hallway, open the door, stand in the doorway and say while touching turquoise: "That rock grows to fill the hallway". If the changes don't persist... I guess the universe is safe, so "nothing to see here" (that would makes this arc a little bit of a boondoggle).

I agree that Herbert is a bad DM. It doesn't change the feeling that this "Speaks Truth" arc is creating more plot holes than oblivion holes in the Maze of Many (I enjoyed that arc). Time will tell I guess.



Wild speculation aside: if time is a result of mortal perception... it follows the world of the Goblins is a CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE BOOK! A really big one. "Every possible reality that could play out, is pre-determined and set in stone. But every decision we make, hops us from our previous reality, to a reality that is exactly the same, except for the decision we just made." Yep. A REALLY BIG CYOA Book.

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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by Velgar » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:24 am

Kinda makes one wonder how the Maze of Many operates when all the possible realities are just one singular existence with Choose Your Own Adventure setup.

Technically speaking all the other realities had to be somehow possible, so in that sense they were all simply "different choices made along the way", which today's god example means they all happened in this singular "bubble" and would not specifically require a "hub" of sorts and in all shapes the PsyMax could quite easily just find a way to exploit the nature of "reality by choice" hopping, since he already was able to manipulate the supposed pocket-space of MoM, which is likely also within the 5th dimension "bubble" that already houses every possible reality, so...

Heck, even in the MoM there were clearly different possibilities present, so it too was constructed in the exact same fashion as the "outside". Sooooo... Yeah. PsyMax won. He just has to realize he already did it. Granted, we could still have time to throw him in one of the Plotivion Holes and erase-not-erase him and then he would likely have no chance of simply changing the fundamental truths of the singular existence they all share albeit for their choices, so...

Overall, there's just a lot of cake and quite a bit of eating it too...
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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by Hope_Caswell » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:21 am

DrinksTea wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:07 pmHe's going to bring the bottle with him, right?
He's stupid, but hopefully not that stupid. I've long subscribed to the theory that MM has a very smart player, and even if Herbert would allow accidental cosmicide, the player would not.
not sure why the hallway only acted like a perception filter for Kin when she was Princess Blanket, but every other change both characters have been aware.
Princess Blanket didn't look any different than Kin, so there was nothing for Max to perceive. The panel where we see Blanketland would have been a memory, since we explicitly know Kin-as-PB didn't perceive herself as being there while in the hallway, and would have stopped perceiving it as soon as she left the hallway and thus the magical effect.

Wild speculation aside: if time is a result of mortal perception... it follows the world of the Goblins is a CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE BOOK! A really big one. "Every possible reality that could play out, is pre-determined and set in stone. But every decision we make, hops us from our previous reality, to a reality that is exactly the same, except for the decision we just made." Yep. A REALLY BIG CYOA Book.
I have zero problem with this. Except it's not CYOA, it's Endless Quest, the CYOA-equivalent actually published by D&D's owners.

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Re: October 20th, 2022 "The Perception of Time"

Post by hector212121 » Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:19 pm

The real question is if the worshippers will be able to beam their worship outside of the hallway, and if so, what effect having a "scwillion"(presumably more than a million, since godmax would know it ends in -illion, and thus minmax would probably remember that) worshippers will have on him.

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