Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by CelineSSauve » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:34 pm

spiderwrangler wrote:
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BuildsLegos wrote:What did you think I meant by "favorite"?
That for some unknown reason you used that term as your pet name for MinMax..
It's from the comic.
http://www.goblinscomic.com/12042005/
and
http://www.goblinscomic.com/04062012/
Ah.

I didn't remember the first one, but the second one trumps that in my mind, and I don't associate our MinMax with that one. :shrug:

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by Krulle » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:57 am

Statement: The MoM is broken.

Reasoning: Minmax ripped all keys out, and threw them up, to where no team should be before the keys are pulled.
Since Minmax took the wrong key, the hole closes.
When the hole closes, no team can get to the exit, therefore the MoM cannot have a winner in this run (not including cheaters like our FMK-group that bypassed the tower room).
If the MoM cannot hava a winner in this run, the MoM-run has finished, and knows only loosers.
Therefore, the MoM should reset itself.

Observation:
It has not done so.

Conclusion: The MoM is broken.


Possible explanations:
* The MoM only ever resets when:
* one team has left the MoM.
* no one inside the MoM is alive (that would mean PsyMax has killed himself several times).
* PsyMax changes broke the MoM already to give him time to finish his modifications.

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by gamecreator » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:11 am

The MoM only ever resets when one team has left it. Period.

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by Krulle » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:27 am

There has been no definite statement saying that.
Especially if the mouth in the tower room has closed after a wrong key has been picked, how can any team come to the finish, so that the team can leave the MoM?

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by gamecreator » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:41 am

Who knows. I think that iteration will last forever and then MoM resets.

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by stevedj » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:46 am

Krulle wrote:There has been no definite statement saying that.
Especially if the mouth in the tower room has closed after a wrong key has been picked, how can any team come to the finish, so that the team can leave the MoM?
Suppose in a different run-through, one team reached the top of the tower. They take the CORRECT key, and the tower rises up towards the mouth. As they reach there, another team reaches the top of the tower (yea, it is close to the ceiling, but not that close -- yet). Not thinking clearly, they just want to stop that correct-key-team (CKT) from getting away with it, so the second team intentionally grabs a wrong key, while the CKT is climbing through. The mouth closes, but perhaps the CKT does indeed get through (maybe lose a leg or foot, or not, but they get through).

So, a wrong key was selected, the mouth did close, yet there could still be a winner.

Thus, what MinMax did is really no different -- and a good reason why the Maze should NOT be designed to reset just because a wrong key was selected.

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by SamWiser » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:28 pm

I just want to say that you guys seem to be making a lot of assumptions about how the MoM works. Most of the things that we "know" about it, are fan theories, not cannon.
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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by gamecreator » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:43 pm

That's why I try to speculate with as few assumptions as possible.

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Re: Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

Post by Marnath » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:44 pm

gamecreator wrote:That's why I try to speculate with as few assumptions as possible.
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"The MoM only ever resets when one team has left it. Period."

If you're trying to make as few assumptions as possible, you're doing it wrong.

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