Mar 9 2013: Minmax' Choice

[BuildsLegos]

New page, just after I got here! Now Minimax seems screwed and neither Forgath nor Kin know which key to use. Bummer.

[WhispersToSquirrels]

The view from the top of the tower reminds me of Bilestoad.

[notimportant]

That was actually one of the things I thought Minmax might do. But I hoped Kin and Forgath would have done something to assist him.

EDIT: Other thread was posted first, so use that for discussion until the moderators can merge.

[SamWiser]

Well, we still don't see the red helmet FMK. Perhaps, it will go down, kill all of the FMK's in there, and he will be safe for a while. That will give them time to find a way to get Minmax back. That's the most important thing right now.

[WhispersToSquirrels]

I facepalmed and thought, "Oh, MinMax, you brave, brave idiot."

[napslikecat]

I remember ages ago about someone in the forums wondering what happens when not all members survive to the end...

now we'll know, unless Kin plays with the closing mechanism we saw in the hallway

[SamWiser]

Well, we still don't see the red helmet FMK. Perhaps, it will go down, kill all of the FMK's in there, and he will be safe for a while. That will give them time to find a way to get Minmax back. That's the most important thing right now.

[banjo2E]

Maybe the mechanism that closed the mouth has a keyhole? For the mouth key?

[RocketScientist]

Pink Kin is awesome. And I don't even like pink.

[Arch Lich Burns]

Maybe the mechanism that closed the mouth has a keyhole? For the mouth key?

From what was seen in a previous update, it was from gears and machinery, not keys. However the others are likely to be able to open it back up since they are already there.

[notimportant]

If he can survive the room somehow, he could try to make it back to the zombie corridor and climb back up again.
But the best idea would be Forgath and Kin claiming victory and then teleporting to him with the Jade Teapot, possibly bringing other useful loot items with them.

[Hanii Puppy]

The dark shadowy figure in the ninth panels is stinking of foreshadowing ... it's a creepy fore-shadow.

[Corpsificus]

Either he's so dumb he figures he can win, or he'd rather die than forget his memories with Kin. Either way, his motivation is still sweet and his courage (either stupid or sacrificial)is highly commendable. To risk his life for love...
http://www.goblinscomic.com/01312006
Who would think that the guy from panel 10 was capable of feeling love for a "monster" like Kin.

Excellent writing, Thunt. You are, so far, in league with Pixar in my opinion. I'm not an emotional person, but you've tugged at my heartstrings like only a Pixar movie (and apparently Goblins) can.

[Marnath]

Well, we still don't see the red helmet FMK. Perhaps, it will go down, kill all of the FMK's in there, and he will be safe for a while. That will give them time to find a way to get Minmax back. That's the most important thing right now.

Or maybe he'll just kill them all a few at a time as they come up? He can probably take them all as long as he has the height advantage and they don't swarm him.

Pink Kin is awesome. And I don't even like pink.

She looks like candy. :3

She also has another Oblivious, hopefully it won't copy hers off his.

[Sockmonkey]

Now that they can unlock the treasure room, Kin and Forgath could load up on magic weapons and use the Jade Teapot to teleport back to save MM before hitting the red circle. In fact, since the blue circle signals victory just having them step into it might reset everyone but the winning party. Then all the others would vanish from the puzzle room and going back to save MM would be easy.
Kin has seen the rules written on the treasure room so she could figure this out unless she's too worried about MM to think straight. In that event, I could see her using the Jade Teapot to go back alone and die saving him.

[Loyal]

She also has another Oblivious, hopefully it won't copy hers off his.

How could it be another Oblivious? Minmax picked it up during this very dungeon crawl.

[Jared]

No.

Gods, no.

[WhichWayDidHeGo]

She also has another Oblivious, hopefully it won't copy hers off his.

How could it be another Oblivious? Minmax picked it up during this very dungeon crawl.

Dunno, but I think she is also wearing another suit of the polychromatic armor. Minmax has been the only one to handle it in our continuity, so we don't know if it will adapt itself to fit anybody.

[WearsHats]

My first thought: "Oh. That's clever."

There has to be a way for the mouth to reopen because someone has to win every time.

They can't just teleport and escape. The teapot will teleport you to anyone, but it gets left behind. The only way it moves is if you carry it. What's not clear is how you get out of the maze and back to your own reality once you get the pot. Or what happens if your party is split at the time.

I'm also not clear on how our FMK have run the maze over a million times against less than a thousand others if one party gets the teapot and leaves every time.


In any case, they can't just leave. Not with PsyMax working to destroy the entire multiverse.

[ZainAurion]

I'm also not clear on how our FMK have run the maze over a million times against less than a thousand others if one party gets the teapot and leaves every time.

Infinity must be fufilled, every time a team meets the victory condition they are removed from the maze, and a new team is added pulled from the infinite parallel universes. In theory, this means the maze never actually ends until existence itself does, which is Psimax's whole shtick. The fact that they've failed over a million times just means there were over a million parallel universes that they lost too. Their likely not even the only super failures inside the maze at this very minute, but (barring something like psimax) every team is destined to eventually win due to infinity.


Though with Psimax mucking up the works who knows how anything works anymore.

[Hrothkael]

I doubt Psimax would be any problem from now on. I have come to the conclusion that the reason why FMK holds an obscene failure rate at the maze is because Psimax has been winning nonstop Millions of times. He is doing this to get every single information possible to create his oblivion. But since our FMK has left the parameters he will just decide to let them go as killing them off would just delay his pocket oblivion project.

What do you think? =) And the oblivion sword is pretty imba so that might help muck up his computations.

[RocketScientist]

In any case, they can't just leave. Not with PsyMax working to destroy the entire multiverse.

He's not trying to destroy the multiverse. Just the maze. Which is basically just as bad for the three of them, I guess. But still.

[Liesmith]

Minmax has two speeds: comical and awesome. And he's not laughing.

Herbert must be PISSED right now.

Anyone here ever seen Mazes and Monsters, particularly Spoony's review of it? This reminds me of one part of the video:

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DM: "You see light glittering off jewels at the bottom of a deep pit."

Frelic: "Frelic jumps in the pit to gather the gems!"

DM: *Thousand-yard stare of a DM who recognizes that a player has failed so hard that it derails the campaign.*

DM: "...the jewels are attached to gem-encrusted spikes. Frelic the Frenetic is dead."

Frelic: "..."

Except the Minmax version is more like this:

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Herbert: "Through the hole in the floor, you see a tall column, with a horde of Alts battling at the base and climbing up towards its top. Next to the hole in the floor, you see a mechanism that--"

Minmax: "Whatever. I jump in the hole."

Herbert: "I..um..ok. That's a thirty-foot drop. Roll acrobatics to see if--"

Minmax: "Natural twenty."

Herbert: *weary sigh*
Herbert: "Ok, you land safely. Before you, you see a series of keys in the pedestal. Looking around, you see massive words written on the walls and ceiling. I know your character can't read, but since he's been hanging out with Kin so much, I'm willing to let you roll intelligence checks to pick out key words from--"

Minmax: "I grab all the keys and throw them up to Kin and Forgath."

Herbert: "I...but...you...what?"

Minmax: "All the keys. Up. Throwing-weapon to-hit on my teammates."
Minmax: *rolls a d20*
Minmax: "Eighteen with a plus ten. I think that hits."

Herbert: "Alright, I can work with this. The hole in the floor was actually a mechanical mouth, which now begins to close. The keys fly up to your teammates just in time. If you make an athletics check, I'll let you try to jump up to--"

Minmax: "Nah. I'mm stab 'em!"

Herbert: "...what? Stab who?"

Minmax: "All of them. Everybody."

Herbert: *extremely weary sigh*.

[WhirdCheese]

No rocks fall everyone dies yet.

[Mithcoriel]

I doubt Psimax would be any problem from now on. I have come to the conclusion that the reason why FMK holds an obscene failure rate at the maze is because Psimax has been winning nonstop Millions of times.

He can't win millions of times. If he wins once, he's out of the maze. At most he could almost win millions of times.

As for those who suggested our FMK could declare themselves winners: if they do that, they'll probably disappear from the maze of many, leaving Minmax behind.
Likewise, it's not guaranteed the mouth needs to have a way to reopen. It could be permanently closed, but once the maze resets, the permanent closing is undone.
(Not that I think it's permanently closed. Kin and Forgath can probably work it somehow).