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Kin's class
If Kin stays in the maze she need to take a class (in order to gain levels)
What class will she take?
I think she should take priest so she could remove her collar.
What class will she take?
I think she should take priest so she could remove her collar.
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If she does take a character class and level up in the maze, I think she'll probably end up as a wizard. High intelligence and all that.
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I think she's going to exit the maze with Minmax and Foregath.
And then Foregath, Minmax Cries, inka binka bon-SHE BECOMES A CLERIC!
Because both Forgath and Chief died, both groups need a healer.
Then you add how Forgath and Chief acted as mediators for their own groups, are both dead, and their roles taken by Kin who's in charge of keeping MInmax and the goblins from fighting in order to work towards the common goal of escaping Kore.
Then theirs the whole HOST of Chief/Forgath parallels that prove they're both going to die here. Shit is seriously wack.
And working towards removing the leash herself is a great story over "maybe I should let the dwarf do it"
And then Foregath, Minmax Cries, inka binka bon-SHE BECOMES A CLERIC!
Because both Forgath and Chief died, both groups need a healer.
Then you add how Forgath and Chief acted as mediators for their own groups, are both dead, and their roles taken by Kin who's in charge of keeping MInmax and the goblins from fighting in order to work towards the common goal of escaping Kore.
Then theirs the whole HOST of Chief/Forgath parallels that prove they're both going to die here. Shit is seriously wack.
And working towards removing the leash herself is a great story over "maybe I should let the dwarf do it"
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that's an interesting argument for why she should take cleric, although I'd have to admit that with her INT, wizard makes a lot more sense
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Onyx = MU, INT
Ruby = Fighter, STR
Sapphire = thief/ranger, DEX
Kin = cleric, WIS
Sometimes the classics are the best.
They can probably tweak the maze so that if they blow up they reset with their collars but otherwise they win and exit without them.
Ruby = Fighter, STR
Sapphire = thief/ranger, DEX
Kin = cleric, WIS
Sometimes the classics are the best.
They can probably tweak the maze so that if they blow up they reset with their collars but otherwise they win and exit without them.
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Hmm.. one mistake and some ideas compared to 3.5 plus what we know about the alts: (from altsplanations)ForgetsOldName wrote:Onyx = MU, INT
Ruby = Fighter, STR
Sapphire = thief/ranger, DEX
Kin = cleric, WIS
Sometimes the classics are the best.
They can probably tweak the maze so that if they blow up they reset with their collars but otherwise they win and exit without them.
Onyx is a Socerer, this have been confiremd by thunt in the altsplanations, so her best stat should be Charisma (as Soceres bases theire magic on that)
Ruby, you are probably right, fighter seems most appropriate, and thus strength
Sapphire could be Fighter, Ranger or Rouge, as all will make excellent ranged characters with a good Dexterity stat, but since we have seen no prof of any special abilities, I'd say she is a Fighter (Thay also makes for the best MinMax Marksmen)
Our kin has a High WIS and INT by the looks of it, this will make for as you say, a good Cleric, as his spell's are WIS based, It would also make for a good Wizard, due to the Intelligence. one could also argue for Monk, we have seen her only fight with her body, proven to be strong, and monks gain many feats that benefits from unarmed combat, in addition, Monks does not have any "needed" Ability score, as their special abilities for the most part does not require any minimum stats, and our Kin, like our Thac0 could have a wish to newer be captive(Read helpless) again...
So... yea.. mostly wrote this for Onyx... became a bit more
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While Cleric is a good choice to fill the needed healer role,
Kin's strong suit is not wisdom and she logically would choose to benefit from her strongest stat.
In my opinion you only need 2 types to complete any dung-crawl. A cleric and a thief.
Seeing Kin become a thieving gadget girl isn't that far of a reach for me.
However... If i was Kin, I'd remember that being a psion has its benefits... like becoming a telepath and linking the kins into a hive mind to solve the
Quantum decoherence problem that keeps them unable to cross into a different reality.
It would also solve all of Kin's STUPID TRUST ISSUES with Minmax.
Kin's strong suit is not wisdom and she logically would choose to benefit from her strongest stat.
In my opinion you only need 2 types to complete any dung-crawl. A cleric and a thief.
Seeing Kin become a thieving gadget girl isn't that far of a reach for me.
However... If i was Kin, I'd remember that being a psion has its benefits... like becoming a telepath and linking the kins into a hive mind to solve the
Quantum decoherence problem that keeps them unable to cross into a different reality.
It would also solve all of Kin's STUPID TRUST ISSUES with Minmax.
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Given the mechanisms of the maze have been called "psionic gears", I would think Psion, or perhaps (given her personality) Wilder would be the obvious choices (Yeah, they're Pathfinder, not 3.5, but DMs adapt things all the time...)
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Or just go level up in Expert.
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If our Kin has high INT and WIS the best class for her is a non-core one: the archivist from Heroes of Horror. Think of a divine wizard.
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Oh no no, both Psion and Wilder can be found in the Expanded Psionic Handbook for DnD 3.5
Psion http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Psion
Wilder: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Wilder
Or. maybe the Psychic Warrior? : h[url]ttp://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Psychic_Warrior[/url]
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Yes.DrinksTooMuchCoffee wrote:Or just go level up in Expert.
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I don't remember any references to Kin having a high WIS before, only a high INT and yet two of you fine folks have now mentioned it. Can anyone point me to where I missed this?
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Well, its not 1 thing, its mostly taking hte DnD description of WIS and INT. here:
WIS: Wisdom describes a characterÔÇÖs willpower, common sense, perception, and intuition.
INT: Intelligence determines how well your character learns and reasons.
While there is no doubt about INT, I also think WIS seems pretty high (Common sense and willpower here)
WIS: Wisdom describes a characterÔÇÖs willpower, common sense, perception, and intuition.
INT: Intelligence determines how well your character learns and reasons.
While there is no doubt about INT, I also think WIS seems pretty high (Common sense and willpower here)
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I could see Kin as a paladin of freedom variant class. I think it would fit her quite well after her enslavement. Short of that, I'd see her as another monastery of one.
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I think she'd make an awesome wizard. Would druid work for her?
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Well they already have an arcane caster...I was thinking a psionic class because it would help them maintain and control the psionic gears that control the maze.harlequin wrote:I think she'd make an awesome wizard. Would druid work for her?
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I have to say from a literary perspective she is not staying with the group of Kin's for the long term.
THunt can do whatever he wants, but the normal progression of character development and story shows that the alt kins are side characters only and ones that we wont be seeing much of now that the main characters left the maze. I think a more accurate prediction is that she will either do a single run again to return the teapot or realize, in spite of her forgetting about the necklace (did you see how she looked at his bleeding hand as though she was aware of a greater connection between them) and will rejoin FM-K to help save them (if the prophecy allows for this). I would think, whatever she becomes at that point, her class would involve some kind of ranged attack like an archer or something.
But I think we are all about to be hugely surprised.
THunt can do whatever he wants, but the normal progression of character development and story shows that the alt kins are side characters only and ones that we wont be seeing much of now that the main characters left the maze. I think a more accurate prediction is that she will either do a single run again to return the teapot or realize, in spite of her forgetting about the necklace (did you see how she looked at his bleeding hand as though she was aware of a greater connection between them) and will rejoin FM-K to help save them (if the prophecy allows for this). I would think, whatever she becomes at that point, her class would involve some kind of ranged attack like an archer or something.
But I think we are all about to be hugely surprised.
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I'm waiting for someone to dump the collar leash down an oblivion hole, making her and Minmax forget the whole holding the leash scenario. This would also prevent ppl holding the leash in the future also. Though that brings up the question if someone is outside the maze does the oblivion holes affect them?
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I think the recent comment should makes us consider the viability of a physical combat class due to her new tail. Though being nigh indestructible doesn't have to dictate a combat class, but it would make her grapple even scarier.
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Don't forget, on reset she's going to be getting her natural tail back, unless she also leaves the maze before reset.
I like the idea of cleric, if only because of her capacity to possibly uncurse herself.
I like the idea of cleric, if only because of her capacity to possibly uncurse herself.
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It would make most logical sense for Kin to take prestige class Seductress as she already uses her charms to corrupt and influence others and plant more seeds of evil.
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On classes:
the goblins took levels to achieve a certain goal. Why do we just assume other people go ahead and take levels also? I mean it would be awesome to see it, but what proof do we have that any characters in the comic, not currently possessing adventure levels, will ever take levels? Im asking cuz it seems like all of the speculation on this over the years (you read that right) seems mostly to boil down to a request for fanservice. But maybe somebody can clue me in.
the goblins took levels to achieve a certain goal. Why do we just assume other people go ahead and take levels also? I mean it would be awesome to see it, but what proof do we have that any characters in the comic, not currently possessing adventure levels, will ever take levels? Im asking cuz it seems like all of the speculation on this over the years (you read that right) seems mostly to boil down to a request for fanservice. But maybe somebody can clue me in.
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The 3 Kins want to run the MOM many times in order to gain levels. They need classes to gain levels.SGTdude wrote:On classes:
the goblins took levels to achieve a certain goal. Why do we just assume other people go ahead and take levels also? I mean it would be awesome to see it, but what proof do we have that any characters in the comic, not currently possessing adventure levels, will ever take levels? Im asking cuz it seems like all of the speculation on this over the years (you read that right) seems mostly to boil down to a request for fanservice. But maybe somebody can clue me in.
If our Kin joins them, it is only logical she will take class also...
ETA: link to their plan http://www.goblinscomic.org/05142013/