Interesting theory about the GAP, FMK and Kore

[boneguard]

In light of the Recent update I've been thinking. "What if we had this encounter wrong?"

Granted we are assuming that it is Minmax and -considering the last Complain of Name Vs Minmax encounter- there was a lot of animosity between the two. But this most recent updates especially the final one is really showing Minmax growth and not seeing all monster as "To be killed" right of, but monster can be ally even friend.

Now, what if Minmax decid to let Bygone be Bygone and helps the GAP against Kore. Might mean the Death of Forgath, but it would be awesome to see.

[gamecreator]

I don't think Minmax just going to forgive Complains that simple. At least they will have nonlethal battle.

[boneguard]

True, that's another possibility. But I still think Oblivious VS Kore could be funny.

[RocketScientist]

I think with Kore running up behind them screaming "Kill the monsters!" Minmax is more likely to be on the GAP's side than on Kore's.

[Wolfie]

I think with Kore running up behind them screaming "Kill the monsters!" Minmax is more likely to be on the GAP's side than on Kore's.

Quite stealing my thoughts!

[Trojan]

I suspect that Kore shooting at Forgath and MinMax for associating with monsters might also have an impact in which side they were on, as might Kin telling Forgath and Minmax that the GAP had tried to help her to escape from the Goblinslayer - assuming that things didn't simply immediately degenerate into a mass brawl and confusion.

As for Minmax and Complains I always saw it as a "I'm the best" kind of rivalry - less personal hatred and more instinctive desire to prove themselves against the other.

[wrecan]

Minmax: Hey Complains, Remember me?
Complains: Run! Kore!
MinMax: Who?
*kathunk* *kathunk*
Kin: *gurk*
Complains and MinMax (to Kore): RAAAAGE! (both go barbarian)

[boneguard]

If Kin is still with Minmax and Forgath, Kore will go all Righteous on their ass and then Conmplain will be the less of Minmax's problem.

[CelineSSauve]

Unless they can discover how to use Oblivious to allow Kin to go with them...

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{1) MinMax and Forgath pour each other a cup from the teapot, as does Kin.

[option] 2a) MinMax lets go of Oblivious and it reappears when he hold onto it but doesn't yet try to move it through time. Kin puts the teapot on the blade, or otherwise attaches it to Oblivious.
[option] 2b) MinMax holds Oblivious still as Kin finds a way to attach the Teapot to the handle, or hang it off the blade. It disappears when MinMax lets go of it, and reappears nearly instantly when future him grabs it.

3) Oblivious somehow pulls the Jade Teapot through time with it.}

[Just because, when they first discovered Oblivious they thought it was impossible, it doesn't mean there's not a way to do it, now that there's more on the line between MinMax and Kin.]

...then I don't see how Kin could be with them, since her hole purpose was to get the Jade Teapot. Even with her feelings for MinMax (And I hope she admits them after this!), I don't see Kin justifying to herself just leaving the treasure of her...Clan/Tribe/Whatever in the Maze forever (or until another of her kind risk their lives for it).

[RocketScientist]

I think with Kore running up behind them screaming "Kill the monsters!" Minmax is more likely to be on the GAP's side than on Kore's.

Quite stealing my thoughts!

edit: I just noticed that the text for the KWU-FOOOOM sound is quite similar in color to the jade teapot.

[boneguard]

I know, I also noticed that, but the core was that we assume conflict. Maybe we wouldn't be having the conflict we initially thought.

[rwstyles]

True, that's another possibility. But I still think Oblivious VS Kore could be funny.

I don't see where Oblivious would help that much against Kore. He can't be disarmed, it can't be damaged in any way, and it acts like an imoveable rod when used defensively.

The armor would be nice against the crossbow bolts, but it doesn't cover everthing. Of Kore can aim his crossbow, he could aim for unprotected spots.

We still don't know what it's limits are re cross time communication, etc etc.

[Rorrik]

I know, I also noticed that, but the core was that we assume conflict. Maybe we wouldn't be having the conflict we initially thought.

I agree that when Kin hears that Minmax is after Names, she might realize they are the goblins who helped her and convince him otherwise. But if he is dropping the grudge, I don't see why he would teleport to him, unless some artifact in the treasure room allows them to see the goblins' plight.

I think Minmax's hatred for Names also has to do with the fact that he "cheated."

[SccrD25]

My guess is that if Kin tells them that the goblins he hates tried to save her from GS they will IMMEDIATELY be classified as friends in his mind.

Love conquers all ya know?

(However for the sake of drama I predict that she wont tell him until shes yelling it at the last moment before people get cut.)

[CelineSSauve]

At the moment, they still think that to Goblins they met and the Goblins Kin met were two different groups. Kin's "Heroic Goblins" and MinMax and Forgath's "World Enders". So, to me at least, going to find their "World Enders" again, makes sense.

I've already posted my thoughts on the only way Kin could go with them, so I won't repeat that.

[SccrD25]

True. I should reword to: "Kin tells him the goblins he hates and the goblins that tried to save her are one and the same. "

I'm not sure how Kin will go with them, but I don't think she'll want to leave Minmax yet. This may be tinged by my undeniable sappy side.

[CelineSSauve]

Well, I suppose there is a rather obvious way, but it would result in a time-delay.

1) Forgath and MinMax use the Jade Teapot to leave the Maze.

2) Kin enters the "go home" circle.

3) Kin uses the Jade Teapot to return to MinMax. (This is the unknown delay, since Kin may not appear right in the middle of her...well, kin. If she has to travel, rather than do a rambling version of "Here's the Jade Teapot, I have to go," then there's a longer delay.)

[gamecreator]

My guess is that if Kin tells them that the goblins he hates tried to save her from GS they will IMMEDIATELY be classified as friends in his mind.

Except Complains. I think Minmax can say the he'll not harm the rest if they'll not interfere, as Complains said about Forgath earlier.

[boneguard]

Here's from the March 5th update thread. It fits for here though so I'm reposting it.

Forgath is the one who said that a dwarf will kill him...the Fortuneteller just said he would die in battle with a dwarf. Picky, I know, but this is Thunt we're dealing with. We can pretty safely assume that every word of that prophecy, exactly as written, is a clue.

My theory is that FMK meet up with the GAP just as Kore arrives. Kore spots Kin, and attacks her. If Kore is a hero to dwarves, as I suspect he may be, then Forgath may be honor-bound to assist him. This will put him in direct conflict with Minmax, who will kill him out of love for Kin. This satisfies all the parameters of the prophecy: "in battle with another dwarf" in this context would mean "in battle beside another dwarf".

Or Junior is involved, because that guy is kind of a jerk.

Great mind think alike. I open a thread about 24 hour ago with my theory which is pretty much the same as yours..

I really cant see Forgath being willing to hurt Kin. He already had the change of heart with Thac0 and he was the one against Minmax killing Kin when they met. He became friends with Kin. I mean come on, look at the last panel here http://www.goblinscomic.com/01282011/

They're friends, they've been through a lot together now. I just cant see Forgath turning on a friend and trying to kill them just because Kore is a dwarf hero, honor-bound or not.

Unless Kore IS/WAS a friend of Forgath. But Forgath association to Kin and potentially siding with the Goblins would made Forgath Turn aganist a friend.

[Rorrik]

Well, I suppose there is a rather obvious way, but it would result in a time-delay.

1) Forgath and MinMax use the Jade Teapot to leave the Maze.

2) Kin enters the "go home" circle.

3) Kin uses the Jade Teapot to return to MinMax. (This is the unknown delay, since Kin may not appear right in the middle of her...well, kin. If she has to travel, rather than do a rambling version of "Here's the Jade Teapot, I have to go," then there's a longer delay.)

Wow! This is a decent way for it to happen. I didn't think of this. As long as "home" means real home and not just back to your reality, this would allow Kin to get to them, perhaps before they kill the goblins(or cause them to get killed by Kore). Works out best, though, if Kin manages to convince them before they use the teapot. But if she did, why would they go to the goblins?

[Rogbull]

Like this post if you only just realised Kore's IME chains are angelwings,
and don't need no man.

[gamecreator]

But if she did, why would they go to the goblins?

To deal with Complains. They are sort of sworn foes after all.

[Rorrik]

Like this post if you only just realised Kore's IME chains are angelwings,
and don't need no man.

Scary angel wings. I want to know if he was in denial when he said he wasn't cursed.

Sure, but if she convinced them not to hurt the goblins, I think the sworn foes thing may come off the table.

[gamecreator]

Also I think their animosity towards each other may have to do something with their IME being the same color.

[Rorrik]

Also I think their animosity towards each other may have to do something with their IME being the same color.

Massive Purple Rage Battle? You may be right, similarity is often the flash point of conflict in personal matters. Especially since they're also both strong-willed and easily angered.