Upcoming Major Plot Point

[Unlucky-for-Some]

That is a very cool theory Genius Supreme - and you are quite right, it would be quite divisive

[DuIstalri]

That is a very cool theory Genius Supreme - and you are quite right, it would be quite divisive

And yet, by definition, it is the very opposite of divisive. (flees for making one of the worst puns in history of the forums)

[WearsHats]

What's the matter, Dulstalri? Think we have such a short fuse?

[Wolfie]

Come back! We love puns!

And by we, I mean a select group of us. And by love I mean.. well who really love puns... (besides me).

[Genius Supreme]

Yeah we really...come together as one...over them.

Alright, that one was pretty weak. I'm sorry. *prepares to be PUNished*

[Wolfie]

Yeah we really...come together as one...over them.

Alright, that one was pretty weak. I'm sorry. *prepares to be PUNished*

I'm just glad that someone didn't point that if Psimax tried to merge himself to Kin, that they'd need a fallen tree first. Ya know cause adders need logs to multiply?

[Genius Supreme]

Yeah we really...come together as one...over them.

Alright, that one was pretty weak. I'm sorry. *prepares to be PUNished*

I'm just glad that someone didn't point that if Psimax tried to merge himself to Kin, that they'd need a fallen tree first. Ya know cause adders need logs to multiply?

Pfft, that's a pretty ln shot, Wolfie

[Starfire]

I personally think it's gonna be Kin making the decision to sacrifice herself by removing her collar (not knowing MinMax's '38 thumb killings' secret she thinks all is lost), so the oblivion machine will be destroyed.

I'll stop your prediction there, and suggest that she takes the collar off, and... nothing happens! Now, our Kin has full use of her powers, to do ... whatever cool thing she is about to do.

I can see some people saying "Awesome" because they finally get to see Kin exercising her powers. And I can see others saying "Lame" because they all wanted a big-ass explosion from the collar.


REMEMBER PEOPLE -- When you make a prediction about that plot point, please explain how you think some people will like it, while others will not. Trust me, it makes predicting this thing a lot harder...

I'm putting my lot in with this one. The 'lame/cool' thing is going to be the collar coming off.

[DuIstalri]

Do we have any reason to think that she COULD take the collar off? When she commented about the 'mountain destroying explosions' that was in response to Forgath's suggestion of casting Remove Curse. By definition, as far as I'm aware, cursed items can't be removed, which suggests that that contingency is only in place for actually removing the curse from the collar.

[RidcullyJack]

Do we have any reason to think that she COULD take the collar off? When she commented about the 'mountain destroying explosions' that was in response to Forgath's suggestion of casting Remove Curse. By definition, as far as I'm aware, cursed items can't be removed, which suggests that that contingency is only in place for actually removing the curse from the collar.

Surely the collar probably can't come of without magical assistance - otherwise what's the point of it? Forgath surely isn't level 5 yet.

Here's the pages that cover what we know about the collar:
Dellyn describes collar's effects to guards
Kin describes collar to Takn (a little)
Kin describes collar's curse to Forgath

[WearsHats]

Come on, guys. We all know the collar comes off when Minmax kisses Kin and the magic of True Love sets her free.

[ForgetsOldName]

I wonder if Psimax knows if the collar hex is real? He's surely had time to experiment with taking collars off.

[WhispersToSquirrels]

I think it has something to do with Kin and MinMax. Essentially, Kin sees MinMax in true mortal danger and does something dumb.

What if Forgath kills Kin in order to prevent PsiMax from using her to coerce MinMax? Friends could become enemies and love could fuel hate.

Well, he knows about the kins messing with his toy and he can teleport. I think at least three kins are going to die next page.

Maybe when PsiMax returns to the machine, he will be surprised to find the Kinship there since they also came through the oblivion hole. I've been hoping that they will figure out some way to use their psionics suppressing collars against him. If they can get one off, maybe they can put it on PsiMax.

... and suggest that she takes the collar off, and... nothing happens! Now, our Kin has full use of her powers, to do ... whatever cool thing she is about to do.

I've been thinking that if I were DMing this, I might have put the collar on Kin to reduce her CR down MinMax and Forgath's level. Now that they've leveled and she's lost her tail, it might be time to remove the collar.

I think PsiMax will let FMK out of the maze. Either by teapot or by letting them win (and resetting the maze). That way he could create true oblivion without interference.

I've been thinking along those same lines myself. People respond that then he would have to deal with the unknown quantity that replaces them.

[Liesmith]

Genius Supreme! Welcome to the forums! I like your theory! Are you secretly Thunt? I'm suspicious of everyone with good ideas and a firm grasp of the English language. To prove your're not him, name three things a human can do on their free time.

In regards to fans accusing Thunt of deus ex machina after the next update, I've actually developped a somewhat complex system to predict which pqges will raise such accusations...so far, it has been startlingly accurate:

1) Was a new page posted?
2) Someone will complain about deus ex machina.

[LooksAndSmiles]

The upcoming major plot point is actually PsiMax taking his ultimate form.

The ones with keen eyes could spot Thunt doodling it casually at one of his live streams:

[Genius Supreme]

*skitters from the ceiling*

Greetings friend Liesmith! I can assure you, I am not Thunt. If I were, posting a theory wouldn't be very sporting of me, now would it? Heheheh.

Anyways, some of these other theories posted are quite good as well. Quite a bit more likely too, if I may say so!

I think if I were a betting man, I'd have to put my money on the .38 thumb special.

[RocketScientist]

please be thumbs, please be thumbs, please be thumbs...

Whatever it is, multiple people will have predicted it, and yet hoards of people will appear shouting "deus ex machina!!"

[wonderdrow]

Perhaps that big plot point isn't about a character's death or oblivion.

Could be some revelation.
Like for example PsiMax revealing that the oblivion holes are actually portals to the worlds the players come from.

[Linkcharge]

How about this:
PsiMax isn't truly an alt at all. He's actually a time-travelling, world-jumping version of MinMax, which has worked to annihilate existence exactly because he couldn't stand the thought that his future self killed Kin. The only possible way to escape this horror is to make sure he never existed in the first place, leading him on a quest to become the most powerful psion ever, so he could make it all never have happened.

Or, a bit more conventionally, once PsiMax finds that MinMax "sees" Kin, he will deliberately torture her in an effort to make MinMax agree that reality is suffering and agree to help oblivionate the maze. Cue one of our favorite characters being viciously killed for the second time in the same storyline.

[apotato]

i'd like to point out minmax156 has no idea psimax is now weak to the number 38. not saying it's not relevent...just that we have a guy who can't count, who's being levitated outside of arms reach, who may be able to kill someone with a thumb movement he likely never numbered/named due to the lack of math. minmax wouldn't think to even try that until he's instructed on the psion's new weakness to a number.

if the psion is weak to all 38 thumb movements, then i continue to hate the arc for how stupid that number thing is.

on a more constructive note

there is one possibility that we've probably all considered but figured was too cruel a twist even for Thunt...that reality 156 doesn't win this run.

Kin's tail is ruined, oblivious is OP as all get out, and it is Thunt writing it. it's likely our protagonists defeat psimax removing the immediate threat of oblivion. then do NOT win the maze. but since the winning run is less interesting than the psimax run we tag along on that narrative instead.

this fulfills the description of some claiming it's awesome, and some lighting the pitchforks. some will enjoy the twist, others will not.

[DrinksTooMuchCoffee]

please be thumbs, please be thumbs, please be thumbs...

Whatever it is, multiple people will have predicted it, and yet hoards of people will appear shouting "deus ex machina!!"

Deus ex pollex!

[wonderdrow]

How about this.

PsiMax is fed up with the meddling of the alts.
He decides to teleport into the reward room, takes his reward and then enters the circle.

The dungeon resets.

So everyone is back at the start, this time without PsiMax.

[BordeauxRow]

How about this.

PsiMax is fed up with the meddling of the alts.
He decides to teleport into the reward room, takes his reward and then enters the circle.

The dungeon resets.

So everyone is back at the start, this time without PsiMax.

Wouldn't be like Psimax at all, that and he said this would be the final time his Kin and Forgath would have to die. (OR something along those lines.)

[wonderdrow]

Well, I don't really expect it knowing PsiMax.

But you have to agree that a dungeon reset now would count as a contreversial plotpoint.

Maybe if K3.5 could force a reset? To save our MinMax?

[BordeauxRow]

A dungeon reset now would mean Psimax would win: Since he remembers what happened (including how true love puked all over his calculations) And the rest of the realities would not remember a thing.