Speculation about Kin/ Serpent Prophesy
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Re: Speculation about Kin/ Serpent Prophesy
THunt's said there should be no question when the prophecy plays out, but then I guess then we can still have disagreements over whether something was obvious enough to be the prophecy or not.
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Prophesies never come out the way you think they will.. but they always have that "ah ha!" moment when they do.
Or is the "oh maaaaaan" moment?
Or is the "oh maaaaaan" moment?
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if THunt said that, and meant it, I would say its still very slightly likely this could be the fulfillment. But most likely is not.
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Seems like it is to me. Minmax looks pretty hateful right now, projecting his feelings of being rejected to the coming combat situation.
Then Kore and Forgath kill each other and everyone can stop talking about it. Win win! We'll know within the next few pages, I think.
Then Kore and Forgath kill each other and everyone can stop talking about it. Win win! We'll know within the next few pages, I think.
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I am wondering if the whole prophecy has already been completed.
Forgath, minmax, and kin repeated the maze several million times right. So technically, forgath has died a ton of times likely horribly already. And all the parts of the prophecy could have been been met on some of those forgotten loops.
Forgath, minmax, and kin repeated the maze several million times right. So technically, forgath has died a ton of times likely horribly already. And all the parts of the prophecy could have been been met on some of those forgotten loops.
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Hm, I don't think that's likely. The wall in Brassmoon implied that the prophecy (including Forgath's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day) would be fulfilled after they find the goblins again.tpg wrote:I am wondering if the whole prophecy has already been completed.
Forgath, minmax, and kin repeated the maze several million times right. So technically, forgath has died a ton of times likely horribly already. And all the parts of the prophecy could have been been met on some of those forgotten loops.
Keeping this up until the Kore mystery is resolved: paladins do not get their powers from deities, and D&D does not operate on subjective morality.
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Not only that, but we've established a few times already that the prophecy coming true in the Maze of Many is a gigantic cop-out so beneath Thunt that he would need a sizemagraph to know about it.
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BuildsLegos wrote:Not only that, but we've established a few times already that the prophecy coming true in the Maze of Many is a gigantic cop-out so beneath Thunt that he would need a sizemagraph to know about it.
A what now? Perhaps you meant a Seismograph?
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...This is what I get for relying on Google Search's suggestions on how to spell.
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I don't think it would be any more of a Cop out than any other method of avoiding or delaying killing Forgath. I mean, if he gets resurrected or somehow avoids dying in this arc and lives until the end of the story, or the Forgath of another reality(via teacup) shows up and dies instead of him. I mean as far as I am concerned any of these would be roughly equivalent. But I also would rather that Forgath didn't die. I don't want to imagine a world without splying...
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You're right, they're all equivalent...and ALL things to which Thunt would never stoop so low.
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(The viper clan rather than Kin could still be primary serpent, all it takes is a little talking, eg "we were hunting you because of white terror... no that's the viper clan leader, we hate them too")
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Sorry if this is something already refuted or denied, but isn't this discussion too focused on the idea, that all three claims of witch the Prophesy consists of (1.the serpent becoming prey, 2.love fueling hate, 3. friends becoming enemies) are all connected with more than being circumstances of Forgath's death? Because for example the serpent could be anything, even a real snake eaten by hedgehog or bird or more metaphorically the serpent is representing a predator (powerful character like.. well... Kore) hunted by something more powerful (maybe GAP and FM turning battle in their favor or more likely the guy who "gifted" Kore with no sense for Good and Evil and eternal paladin state). And the love fueling hate...? As crazy as it may sound I think that Prophesy doesn't mean love between MinMax and Kin but rather brother-love between MinMax and Forgath...