Trinity Isles OOC

[SuperVaderMan]

I just got another flash of inspiration for an idea, so maybe we won't have to?

[Theis2]

Yeah that was part of what I was going for, but posting from a phone doesn't lend itself to go all the way with it

[Arch Lich Burns]

! I had a crazy idea. The tree is arceus. Or arceus is trapped in there. Either one.

[M0rtimer]

Hey Dlover, I still need that perception roll from you, too.

[Dlover]

... Huh. I didn't even see you ask, sorry.

Perception: 5
Intuition: 17

[M0rtimer]

This update definitely not delayed for what must feel like a thousand years because RL.

Also definitely didn't sleep a day on two issues of whether or not I'd pull things into a battle by "no fault of the trainers" and if I'd have Giratina show up for a second to say "sup" and then fuck off again.

I suppose the former thing is something I should ask your guys opinions on while i'm at it- It's obvious that for many scenarios, the RP thing to do will be to try and avoid a battle, but OOC you want a battle to occur to gain exp... So how do you guys feel about "We tried to do things peacefully, and we even had good enough rolls/rp for it, but things still went south" kind of scenarios? Or does it vary in the context of "I don't mind if we're at full health, but if we're injured like we are we probably want to avoid that".

It should be noted that I think that, in a game setting like this at least, it's also possible to "resolve things peacefully by combat"... What I basically mean is that even though there is a fight, the two fighting parties end up as potentially even better friends as that just diplomatics could have gotten them. Hermes is actually a really good example of this- If you'd had ended up fighting him, defeating him, and then showing mercy... He'd have realized you could not be "demons", for they would not do such a thing. A more realistic scenario would have been a "time trial", though, where you'd need to hold out against Hermes (and potentially Gaia) for X amount of turns until the portal opened and they HAD to leave. And in a world where people get KO'd before dying, and recover from this with basically no injuries except some small ones that usually take only a day or two to heal at most... Combat is probably not considered as "bad" as it is in the real world.

[Dlover]

Combat is probably not considered as "bad" as it is in the real world.

I can vouch for this. Alex has been shot, eaten, fallen off cliffs, blasted by various pokemon attacks, and he's actually completely fine, if a little mentally scarred.

[Theis2]

I was fully prepared for the only solution to Hermes was to actually fight him. It's nice that convincing Gaia was another solution to this encounter however, so we avoided fighting with our injured pokemon and some trainers.
I pretty much expect that some encounters can't be won by talking. Taking Hermes as an example, we pretty much kept telling him that everything he put his faith into is not worth putting so much faith into, he should consult us or our superiors in this matter. No matter how nice and diplomatic we tell him this, it's still going against all he knows and why should he accept that? I'm sure without Gaia we could never have suceeded the diplomatic route even if we had rolled 30 ten times in a row. It could still be beneficial to us to have rolled so well and delayed him so much that we only had to fight him for 4 rounds before he had to go through the portal, rather than maybe 15 rounds if we had rolled badly on the attempts.

I also like the idea of battles just being very loud arguments xD

[Dlover]

Add that to the list of fights Alex can't win, then. He prefers not to raise his voice, since being loud just makes the frail man look silly.

[Theis2]

You can just have your skarmory scream for you

[Dlover]

That's a good point. I think I can probably have him do most negotiations for me. A skarmory with a taste for human flesh is a pretty effective negotiator.

[M0rtimer]

When the enemy is dead you've won the argument, right?

[Dlover]

When they're dead And all the evidence is eaten by a big metallic bird.

[SuperVaderMan]

Honestly I think it was mostly Dusk that didn't want things to turn into a fight . I would've been fine with it, especially since it looked like a fight was gonna be unavoidable for a while there.

Well, it would have sucked a little bit. Dusk brought up a good point about the ramifications of failing diplomacy. We thought that if things devolved into a fight then it would severely mess up relations with a whole other dimension of god-people by making them think we're a bunch of conniving demon-people. It seemed like we were being given a choice of "let the tree get destroyed and screw things up on a potentially cosmic scale, or make enemies of Giratina and all of his followers forever." Given the situation we couldn't really expect things to have resolved themselves via 'diplomacy through combat'. If I'd known that was an option I wouldn't have been as adamant about talking it out.

So it wasn't so much that we'd just gotten out of a boss fight and didn't want to jump into another (though that might have contributed a little), it was more that this specific situation was looking a bit hopeless if we couldn't work the diplomacy thing.


Besides all that though, with the 3 misc exp, Koa is now level 12!

Koa gains a point in Defense, increases Survival to Master rank, and strengthens his bond with Diancie by gaining the Royal Privilege edge.

And I also wanted to ask, while I'm leveling up, could I could take the +2 Skill Enhancement bonus I gave to Combat and shift that over to Focus?

[Theis2]

I feel a bit annoyed that we get 3 misc xp.. damn you overseer for making sure I don't get a level and I stay further behind Koa!

[Natrivv]

Maybe it's because my Gm style is similiar to yours, but I don't mind when things go astray to what I want. It makes the world seem more real. Reality doesn't bend to the characters wishes (unless you have probability control ), and so things will happen outside of our control and our strength level. A person with Palkia's powers freely warping people through space, God of an alternate dimension, Spark, Overseer, and probably Arceus should feel like overpowered beings to us.

On average most people only have 1 gym badge. Is it frustrating to be in a spot where it seems impossible, yes, but that's also good motivation to keep training and getting stronger for our characters.

[Dusk9]

Honestly I think it was mostly Dusk that didn't want things to turn into a fight . I would've been fine with it, especially since it looked like a fight was gonna be unavoidable for a while there.

To be fair, I was mostly thinking in character. Well, 70-80%, at least. OOC I'm totally fine with beating the shit out of random people for exp

But yeah, I was trying to look at things from Izzy's perspective. She's not a pacifist or anything, but she is kinda naive. Which basically makes her inclined towards solving problems without violence, even if that's not necessarily the best idea (hence why she caught most of her 'mons via talking). Plus she kinda liked Gaia and didn't want to burn any bridges. Not to mention that befriending Prometheus' family might end up being useful in the future, if we ever get a chance to talk to him.

Didn't think about the "honorable combat" diplomacy method. In hindsight I maybe should've, since Hermes has some knight-like qualities going on. Izzy might not have been too happy if a fight had happened, but I'd personally be alright with whatever honestly.

By the way, does this 100xp for 'mons only apply to the ones that were out? Because I think I had Maku and Eddie out, but I'm not entirely sure....

[M0rtimer]

And I also wanted to ask, while I'm leveling up, could I could take the +2 Skill Enhancement bonus I gave to Combat and shift that over to Focus?

Sure.

By the way, does this 100xp for 'mons only apply to the ones that were out? Because I think I had Maku and Eddie out, but I'm not entirely sure....

Any pokemon is fine. This is my "Giving exp for winning things through diplomacy" thing I had talked about earlier.

[Natrivv]

So I finshed leveling up Irene the 3 misc exp pushes her to level 10.
After dealing with Giritina's followers/worshipers and learning about a third dimension Irene has a much stronger grasp on other worlds making adapt at occult education
Further responding to her desire to protect Irene's psychic powers can now form a Sacred Shield letting her create a reflect and lucky chant blessing to help protect people fighting
she gets +1 hp from sacred shield and +1 speed from leveling up.

Ochrana and Cygnus get 50 exp each for actually watching the whole lets be diplomants, and for being cute in general.

[Dusk9]

Zeke gets 27xp, going up to Lv24. He gains +1SPD, and learns Swift (giving him a much needed ranged attack).
Nate earns 25xp, hitting Lv21 and getting +1HP.
Eddie gets 22xp, earning Lv24 and +1SATK.
And finally, Kay gets the remaining 26xp, but sadly no levels. Yet...

[M0rtimer]

So, the forum just hit the shitter for a moment... Just as I was about to post my update, of course. >_<

Guess I'll redo it tomorrow... Don't be surprised if it's surprisingly shit, I guess, cuz I won't feel like writing the same shit twice.

[Arch Lich Burns]

Always save just incase? Fortunally i have hrome so i just hit backwards.

[M0rtimer]

Yeah, I tried that, but with the forum dying just a couple minutes the page wouldn't properly reload and it got deleted... Should I have saved it externally..? Probably, just in case, but how was I to predict it was gonna go down at just the wrong moment..?

[SuperVaderMan]

I always Ctrl+C my whole post right before submitting for exactly this reason

[Dlover]

Ouch, having the forum freak out there really sucks.