Civilization 6: ENTRIES for 2nd Round CLOSED

[Aegis J Hyena]

Minos start as Neutral, Dave, so they'd be a 5 on the silly calculation/average thing I did.

[D34dlock]

Drop Underdark Connections for Toxic & Valley. Switch H2Ovore to Mundivore.

Should look like:
Space
Mundivore
Toxic
Valley

[Jibjib]

Could I swap Redstone for Claws and H2Ovore for mundivore?

Should now be Claws, Toxic, Valley, Mundivore

[Bahamut]

I'd like to drop everything but Mundivore for Pro.

Should now be Mundivore, Pro

[madmartin26]

switching h2ovore to mundivore.

[Aegis J Hyena]

If we reach 30 pages before the 2nd, I'll close votes then, though apparently it's starting to become obvious which tweaks you want.

Which actually makes sense, as I just got a nice idea on how to tie it all together...

[BadgeAddict]

Let me know if i missed anything...

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You may choose 4 "cost" of Tweaks
(-3) 8 - PRO (Gathers, Badge, Kide, Nikohl, NewOne, NerdSavant, Dlover, Bahamut)
(-1) 5 - Mundivore (Davecom, Dlover, Bahamut, D34d, JibJib, Madmartin)
(-1) 5 - Redstone (Alaen, Kida, Badge, NewOne, Kide, )
(-1) 5 - Claws (Alaen, Dlover, SVM, NerdSavant, JibJib)
(-1) 4 - UnderDark Connections (Madmartin, Dlover, Kelten)
(-2) 4 - Interracial+ (Chuck, Madmartin, SVM, Davecom)
(-1) 4 - Space (Kelten, D34d, Saru, Quarg)
(-1) 4 - Toxic (Dlover, JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 3 - Valley (Quarg, JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 2 - Dead Magic Zone (Kida)
(-1) 1 - Carnivore (Kelten)
(-2) 1 - Celestial Event+ (Alaen)
(-1) 1 - Giant (kelten)
(-1) 1 - H20Vore (Gathers)
(-1) 1 - Lava Layer (SVM)
(-1) 1 - Low Magic (Kida)
(-1) 1 - Nightstalker (Davecom)
(-1) 1 - nomadic (Chuck, Madmartin)
(-1) 1 - Population- (Chuck)

[Quarg]

Switch to Pro
and
Redstone

Thanks Badge...

[Davecom3]

So splitting things into approximate 1/3 sections between Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic, we wind up True Neutral with Lawful (splits between Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic= 0-557/557-1128/1128-1685, Neutral:735) and Evil (splits between Good/Neutral/Evil= 0-557/557-1128/1128-1685, Neutral:947.5) tendencies. Neutral Center: 842.5

Edit:Oops, forgot the half-breeds. Population+ may have further effects on alignment, but, calculated without Population+, this is how the alignment stands, as far as I can determine.

[kida]

Switch to redstone and pro.

Could we spam this thread until we reach page 30 to close the results as is?

[D34dlock]

If how the last lock was done how it stands now we will get Pro & a roll off between Mundivore, Redstone, & Claws.

[kida]

Redstone wins thank to quarg

[GathersIngredients]

What does the +150% metabolism speed of the mundivore mean? Is that some variant of the 'accelerated metabolism'?


And, yeah, I'd rather have mundivore than redstone (did you see that one of them is 'twitchy explosive in WATER'? I'm not so sure I want this in a world where we are all traveling around on tubs of metal/wood on the ocean... It's not about whether or not we can keep our cargo area dry enough, it's about the enemy having that stuff as PCM = pirate counter measures), so I'm switching from h2ovore to mundivore. But I'd still like clarification on the metabolism thingy.

Pro (3)
Mundivore

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Mundivore:The Civilization can literally eat anything, and don't suffer half as badly if they eat something toxic, rotten, or corruptive. On the other hand, metabolism is sped up by 150% because while they can eat anything, they get far less nutrition from food than they normally would. Grants 2 Tweaks. Overwrites and replaces all other food-related Tweaks.

Redstone:The world has special minerals: Emerald Jade, Crimson Jade and Bloodstone Jade -- that serve as magical conducting powder to power devices. On the other hand, it's lethally toxic on contact (Emerald), twitchy-explosive in water (Crimson) or necromantically hallucinatory (Bloodstone). All three convert acid to water on contact. Requires special tools to mine safely.

Could we spam this thread until we reach page 30 to close the results as is?

Now that's just plain evil. Give people in other timezones a chance to react to the new developments and try to get what they want (or avoid what they don't want), too!

[kida]

I don't understand mundivore.
It basically eat everything (as we eat without mundivore) but get less nutrition.
It's just stupied. Plus we don't get the extra 2 tweaks. H2Ovore was much better.

[GathersIngredients]

Mundivore is a bit different to 'non-tempered nutrition'. It lets you eat ANYTHING, so not only meats and plant parts, but stuff like rocks, metal, wood, acid, poison, the fur, dry bone, horn, hooves and whatnot of animals... and get nutrition from that. Water 'only', too, if I understood Aegis correctly.

I'm not sure what simple celled usually eat, but most other creatures need meat and/or plants (carnivore, herbivore, omnivore) and fresh water to drink. With mundivore we can just eat or drink anything that is available. If we get stuck in a void, we could at least eat our ships. If we get stuck in the ocean, we can eat the water and/or and drifting materials. Or dive to the bottom of the ocean and eat handfuls of sand. Or whatever. That's mundivore.

If we didn't get mundivore (or h2ovore) we'd have to get fish or algea or whatever else we can find, while stuck out on sea. (Maybe revert to cannibalism and eat our own dead. Or maybe chew some of our extra arms off - after getting them, if we don't pick pro - that would make badge happy at least... ) We have those options, too, with mundivore, but we are not limited to it.

[kida]

Badge - you really need xls, so you won't miscount

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You may choose 4 "cost" of Tweaks
(-3) 10 - PRO (Gathers, Badge, Kide, Nikohl, NewOne, NerdSavant, Dlover, Bahamut, quarg,kida)
(-1) 7 - Mundivore (Davecom, Dlover, Bahamut, D34d, JibJib, Madmartin,gathers)
(-1) 6 - Redstone (Alaen, Kida, Badge, NewOne, Kide, quarg)
(-1) 5 - Claws (Alaen, Dlover, SVM, NerdSavant, JibJib)
(-1) 3 - UnderDark Connections (Madmartin, Dlover, Kelten)
(-2) 4 - Interracial+ (Chuck, Madmartin, SVM, Davecom)
(-1) 3 - Space (Kelten, D34d, Saru)
(-1) 3 - Toxic (Dlover, JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 2 - Valley ( JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 1 - Carnivore (Kelten)
(-2) 1 - Celestial Event+ (Alaen)
(-1) 1 - Giant (kelten)
(-1) 1 - Lava Layer (SVM)
(-1) 1 - Nightstalker (Davecom)
(-1) 2 - nomadic (Chuck, Madmartin)
(-1) 1 - Population- (Chuck)

[kida]

Dlover, madmartin - you voted too many tweaks. Here is thecurrent status without your vote:

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You may choose 4 "cost" of Tweaks
(-3) 9 - PRO (Gathers, Badge, Kide, Nikohl, NewOne, NerdSavant, Bahamut, quarg,kida)
(-1) 5 - Mundivore (Davecom, Bahamut, D34d, JibJib,gathers)
(-1) 6 - Redstone (Alaen, Kida, Badge, NewOne, Kide, quarg)
(-1) 4 - Claws (Alaen, SVM, NerdSavant, JibJib)
(-1) 1 - UnderDark Connections ( Kelten)
(-2) 3 - Interracial+ (Chuck,SVM, Davecom)
(-1) 3 - Space (Kelten, D34d, Saru)
(-1) 2 - Toxic (, JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 2 - Valley ( JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 1 - Carnivore (Kelten)
(-2) 1 - Celestial Event+ (Alaen)
(-1) 1 - Giant (kelten)
(-1) 1 - Lava Layer (SVM)
(-1) 1 - Nightstalker (Davecom)
(-1) 1 - nomadic (Chuck)
(-1) 1 - Population- (Chuck)

Gathers - i'm not sure it includes eating water. What about eating energy of the dead like necrovore?
Looking(briefly I'll admit) at the races we have I don't see any diet restrictions.
In past civs I don't remember food as a big issue. When you fighting for your life all the time you don't pay attention to what you eat. Why does everyone so afraid for our food this time? We will probably spend one month action to establish fishing station and after that Aegis will probably forget we need to eat(unless we will have a special tweak he will have to remember)

[Dlover]

Dlover, madmartin - you voted too many tweaks.

I'm changing my votes to;
(1) Mundivore
(3) Pro

Gathers - i'm not sure it includes eating water. What about eating energy of the dead like necrovore?

And yes to the others --- Mundivore includes water. It's an "eats-ANYTHING" sort of thing.

Those help? Hope they do, it took me three runs through the last four pages to find them, even though I knew they were there.
I'll also give you that my change was at the end of a fairly large post (for me), so it's reasonable that you'd miss it.

[kida]

[quote="kida"]

Ok - i relied on Badge's last count. He didn't remove your first vote and he added madmartin to nomadic somehow...

Everyone - please double check the list...

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You may choose 4 "cost" of Tweaks
(-3) 10 - PRO (Gathers, Badge, Kide, Nikohl, NewOne, NerdSavant, Dlover, Bahamut, quarg,kida)
(-1) 7 - Mundivore (Davecom, Dlover, Bahamut, D34d, JibJib, Madmartin,gathers)
(-1) 6 - Redstone (Alaen, Kida, Badge, NewOne, Kide, quarg)
(-1) 4 - Claws (Alaen, SVM, NerdSavant, JibJib)
(-1) 2 - UnderDark Connections (Madmartin, Kelten)
(-2) 4 - Interracial+ (Chuck, Madmartin, SVM, Davecom)
(-1) 3 - Space (Kelten, D34d, Saru)
(-1) 2 - Toxic (JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 2 - Valley ( JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 1 - Carnivore (Kelten)
(-2) 1 - Celestial Event+ (Alaen)
(-1) 1 - Giant (kelten)
(-1) 1 - Lava Layer (SVM)
(-1) 1 - Nightstalker (Davecom)
(-1) 1 - nomadic (Chuck)
(-1) 1 - Population- (Chuck)

[Davecom3]

Food is a resource, so I'd imagine there'd be a risk of running out of food without a plentiful food source.

[nikohl]

Stick me down for mundivore. I'm not that fussed about it, I'd just rather it than redstone.

[Kelten]

soddenly getting an image of a oger eating a frying-pan...
Im ok with that!
Moving giant to Mundivore

[BadgeAddict]

It was a really long day yesteday, allow me to apologize for screwing up after attempting to dig 21 post holes 2' deep yesterday....noticed i said attempted....18 inches down and then rocks in every single hole....

Thank you for helping out kida, I dub thee, assistant to the Tally Master.

I'm sorry for bitching about h20vore, i just couldn't understand how to get the point across until i remembered about mundivore.

Everyone - please double check the list...
1. Updated for NewoneAround (Below)

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You may choose 4 "cost" of Tweaks
(-3) 9 - PRO (Gathers, Badge, Kide, Nikohl, NerdSavant, Dlover, Bahamut, quarg,kida)
(-1) 9 - Mundivore (Davecom, Dlover, Bahamut, D34d, JibJib, Madmartin,gathers, Nikohl, Kelten)
(-1) 6 - Redstone (Alaen, Kida, Badge, NewOne, Kide, quarg)
(-1) 5 - Claws (Alaen, SVM, NerdSavant, JibJib, NewOne)
(-2) 4 - Interracial+ (Chuck, Madmartin, SVM, Davecom)
(-1) 3 - Space (Kelten, D34d, Saru)
(-1) 3 - Toxic (JibJib, D34d, NewOne)
(-1) 2 - UnderDark Connections (Madmartin, Kelten)
(-1) 3 - Toxic (JibJib, D34d, NewOne)
(-1) 2 - Valley ( JibJib, D34d)
(-1) 1 - Carnivore (Kelten)
(-2) 1 - Celestial Event+ (Alaen)
(-1) 1 - Lava Layer (SVM)
(-1) 1 - Nightstalker (Davecom)
(-1) 1 - nomadic (Chuck)
(-1) 1 - Population- (Chuck)

[NewOneAround]

dropping PRO.

Redstone
Claws
Toxic

And a tripple hiphiphussa for our tallymaster and assistant.

[Dlover]

We rather need to not have redstone. It sounds cool, yes, but despite Steampunk, we have quite a few cons that reduce our technological skill, which balances out our advantages. Chances are, we won't be able to implement the resources very efficiently, and if people were concerned the ocean would suddenly become non-water, then it's a near certainty that enemies will make armaments from the one that explodes in water. That would be very bad for us.