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Postby Rex » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:51 pm

Krulle wrote:It may well be that someone of the team wants it to happen and pours own money into it....
And thus without loot, as loot costs money and thus decreases available funds.


Is that legal? Seems deceptive to inflate the progress of your campaign and entice more donations.
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Postby thinkslogically » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:56 pm

I don't see why not - people are free to spend their money on whatever they want even if they're involved in the project.
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Postby Rex » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:14 pm

Legality of the action aside, if that’s the case it’s still shady. The ethical thing to do would be to say upfront that X amount was fronted by the content producer.

Anyway that’s all hypothetical, I just find it anomalous that so much money poured in so quickly. A few days ago I would’ve said it was a million to one shot this would fund, now it is looking like a really good probability!
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Postby WearsHats » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:17 pm

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Krulle wrote:It may well be that someone of the team wants it to happen and pours own money into it....
And thus without loot, as loot costs money and thus decreases available funds.


Is that legal? Seems deceptive to inflate the progress of your campaign and entice more donations.


It is not legal, for exactly that reason, and IGG is careful about making sure that doesn't happen.
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Postby RocketScientist » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:26 pm

Just checked again. 92% of the way there. I think a lot of people wait until near the end of a campaign to donate. My fingers are crossed.
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Postby BuildsLegos » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:42 pm

I think there's a lot of overlap between the type of people who stay anonymous, the type who contribute a lot, and the type who wait till the last minute; that is to say, they feel some silly sense of shame for this.
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Postby extrabigmehdi » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:51 pm

92% and one day left, this is insane :-)
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Postby thinkslogically » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:01 pm

WearsHats wrote:
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It is not legal, for exactly that reason, and IGG is careful about making sure that doesn't happen.


Fair enough :) Thanks for clarifying!
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Postby Rex » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:15 pm

I’m sure IGG has it in their PnP that you can’t make donations to your own campaign then, but I don’t see what would stop me from giving any sum I want to a relative (or maybe better, close friend) to donate on my behalf.

Just seems like an easy loophole to get around.
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Postby WearsHats » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:29 pm

I made a donation to push things along and their Trust department emailed me to make sure that nothing like that was going on. They take this stuff seriously. They have a whole department dedicated to it.

Also, for the record, Thunt and company don't have the money to throw around. They were just talking about that in the FB livestream because someone asked why they don't just fund it themselves. Voice actors are not paid as much as you think (Phil mentioned that the majority of SAG members don't make enough to be able to afford health insurance, which just blew my mind), and webcomic artists aren't exactly rolling in money. They're not in a position to self-fund.

Not to mention that Matt poured his available money into World of Steam. He ran a successful Kickstarter for it, but had some things go wrong later in production. He dug into his savings to push it through. Because he was committed to making it work. But it was really rough for a while. You could see it in the post-campaign updates. He was practically bankrupted. The series has now been picked up by the Jim Henson Company, but it was a hard road getting there. And it's still in development, so I don't think he's nearly made his money back. That comes later, when it finally gets on air.
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Postby AXIS » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:38 pm

I'm actually kinda impressed, I didn't think it would get anywhere close to this much,

might even happen.
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Postby spiderwrangler » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:36 pm

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Postby extrabigmehdi » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:31 pm

What if funding stop at 99%, who knows ? o:)
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Postby BuildsLegos » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:35 pm

Sonofacrap, at $8,400 to go, we might actually make it before midnight in Thunt's timezone!
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Postby Glemp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:46 am

I wouldn't be surprised if the creators were adding their own money, to make the project look successful and attract more backers, and so they can actually get the money of course.
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Postby WearsHats » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:25 am

Glemp wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the creators were adding their own money, to make the project look successful and attract more backers, and so they can actually get the money of course.


They aren't. I just wrote about that half a page up.
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Postby BuildsLegos » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:40 am

At this rate, staying up all night has worked against me; this is definitely going to finish while I'm asleep. I bet they're watching me, waiting to pitch the last $4200 when I turn off the computer.
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Postby WorldWarIV » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:53 am

It really is close now!
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Postby Krulle » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:15 am

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gobl ... animation/
1970$ missing right now.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/goblins-animated-2nd-edition-rpg-animation/ wrote:Hey! Right now, and until the campaign closes, Tarol will be drawing live on Twitch, talking about Goblins. Danielle's there too. Come hang out!
https://www.twitch.tv/thunt_goblins

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Postby Krulle » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:29 am

Because it is a nice nuber of backers:

$246,265 USD raised by 2222 backers

(248,000 USD is the target; so 1735$ missing)
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Postby BuildsLegos » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:47 am

$1487 before I can sleep for the first time in 26 hours.
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Postby Krulle » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:12 am

Gonna stop following the twitch and the like. But I recorded some numbers while I did lsiten to it:
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bucks to go:
1735 (2222 backers)
1585 (2225 backers)
1487 (2228 backers)
1427 (2229 backers)
1397 (2230 backers)
1275 (2232 backers)
1245 (2233 backers)
1185 (2234 backers)
1180 (2235 backers)
1160 (2236 backers)
1145 (2237 backers)


And I'm sure there is a faster way to texture the rocks than the way I saw THunt doing it.... But might need a bit of setting-up...
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Postby RocketScientist » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:49 am

$1027 to go with 2241 backers...

Dang, this is a nail biter.
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Postby spiderwrangler » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:59 am

$698 with 2248...
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