05 June 2015: It's a hard struggle!

Krulle · Post by **Krulle** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:51 pm

Permalink: http://www.goblinscomic.org/06082015/

The transcription:

http://www.goblinscomic.com/06082015/ wrote:
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Minmax: The harder we struggle, the tighter these ropes get!
Complains of Names: Yeah, I can see why all these adventurers died here.

Minmax: Don't worry, I gotta plan. Something all these idiots never thought of.
Thaco: Really?
Complains of Names: What.

Minmax: Struggle really hard!

Minmax: Nnnaaahh!
Thaco: We're going to die.
Complains of Names: Yup.

Minmax: Okay, that was a dumb idea.
Big Ears: Yeah, you're just making it worse.
Minmax: Right, right. Okay, I've got it. I have another plan. a smarter plan.
Complains of Names: What.

Minmax: Struggle really, really hard!
Thaco: Is he really this stupid?
Complains of Names: I am so embarassed to have him as my nemesis.

Minmax: Erk! It's getting really tight, you guys. It's starting to hurt.
Complains of Names: Yeah, that's because you keep struggling, you moron!

Minmax: Hey, don't call me a moron! At least I'm trying something instead of just dangling!
Complains of Names: Well struggling, no matter how hard, isn't going to work!
Minmax: Well obviously I know that now!

Minmax: Wait! Kickaxo, what's the opposite of struggling?
Fumbles (Senor Vorpal Kickass'o): Well... not struggling?
Minmax: Exactly!
Forehead Fumbles (Senor Vorpal Kickass'o): Monster

Minmax: So if struggling makes the ropes tighter and struggling harder makes the ropes really tighter, and the opposite of struggling is not struggling,t hen logically...
Thaco: Watching him thing is like watching ice melt.
Minmax: ...then logically, um...

Minmax: ...we have to struggle really, really, really hard!

Minmax: Rraaauuw!
Complains of Names: This is not how I expected to die.
pencilled preview

How strong can these vines get? When do they snap?

Edit: changed permalink to shaded version

Darkpool · Post by **Darkpool** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:01 am

Wonder how long it will take Minmax to remember Oblivious.

Krulle · Post by **Krulle** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:12 am

The question is whether he can move his hands sufficiently to try to grab his sword.
No grabbing movement -> no sword.

Also Big Ears Axe of Prissan is not above him, otherwise he could will the sword to fall through him and possibly snap a vine on the way down.

WastesTime · Post by **WastesTime** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:37 am

Next time Minmax summons Oblivious, his hand will be gray and the background red (I think) so I guess they are gonna get out of this one in some other way.

Krulle · Post by **Krulle** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:44 am

Well, we know that Thaco chose his class very carefully.

SpeaksManyLanguages · Post by **SpeaksManyLanguages** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:04 am

Note, how everyone calls Complains of Names as "Complains" and Minmax calls him "Names". Now, everyone calls senor Vorpal Kickaxo "Vorpal" and Minmax said "Kickaxo".

I wonder, why didn't he call Forgath "Bladebeard"

Krulle wrote:Well, we know that Thaco chose his class very carefully.

But it didn't help him last time.

Krulle · Post by **Krulle** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:17 am

@[color=red]Thunt[/color]_[color=darkGreen]Goblins[/color] wrote:Before the Goblinites are all helpful in pointing it out, there are a few mistakes like Names' missing fangs, etc. I'll fix 'em tomorrow. :)

Just to avoid all the error pointing... (I didn't see them, but then I'm text-oriented...)
But you're free to list them anyway!

Oh, and I just love how Fumbles is hanging upside-down... :) He is getting back to be his former self.

Glemp · Post by **Glemp** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:18 am

Krulle wrote:
@[color=red]Thunt[/color]_[color=darkGreen]Goblins[/color] wrote:Before the Goblinites are all helpful in pointing it out, there are a few mistakes like Names' missing fangs, etc. I'll fix 'em tomorrow.
Just to avoid all the error pointing... (I didn't see them, but then I'm text-oriented...)
But you're free to list them anyway!

A textual one, then - Thac0 misses a question mark in "What?". I know it's hard to convey tone through text and we can't see his face, but he's still asking MM something.

SpeaksManyLanguages wrote:
Krulle wrote:Well, we know that Thaco chose his class very carefully.
But it didn't help him last time.

Actually, that'd be here - Ears needed to get him out on the next page.

Krulle · Post by **Krulle** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:21 am

It's Complains of Names. And he often just says "What.". (Panel 2, Panel 5)
Maybe due to him being a part-demon.
I noticed a few times before.

Indeed, last page it was Thaco in the second-to-last panel...

For me the missing questionmark just convey a certain disinterest... Just like some say "Why?" jsut to be polite, without any real interest in hearing an answer.

Post by **LAYF** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:23 am

I Must admit I still admire MM's train of thoughts... When first that old ineffective steam powered brain gets going there is nothing stopping it... Not even the obvious mistakes it makes...

Glemp · Post by **Glemp** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:24 am

Krulle wrote:It's Complains of Names. And he often just says "What.". (Panel 2, Panel 5)
Maybe due to him being a part-demon.
I noticed a few times before.

Indeed, last page it was Thaco in the second-to-last panel...

For me the missing questionmark just convey a certain disinterest... Just like some say "Why?" just to be polite, without any real interest in hearing an answer.

....Yeah, since it was established earlier it makes sense to imagine it this time.

sunphoenix · Post by **sunphoenix** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:47 am

BWAHAHAHAH!!! 'Snicker'..OH Gods...!! Please STOP..My sides are splitting! HIGH-LARIOUS! Thanks Thunt! I'll be laughing all damn day long!

mertol · Post by **mertol** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:50 am

Why are they not trying to cut them? Thaco's hand seems pretty loose.

Xavier78 · Post by **Xavier78** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:11 am

Yup, Minmax is still a complete moron. Unbelievably so too. Good to see that never changes... No offense, but I found nothing funny or remotely interesting this comic. *shrug* Maybe next time.

Urobolos · Post by **Urobolos** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:22 pm

Xavier78 wrote:Yup, Minmax is still a complete moron. Unbelievably so too. Good to see that never changes... No offense, but I found nothing funny or remotely interesting this comic. *shrug* Maybe next time.

Yep, consistency of character and stats. Good to see that happen. I found this comic to be quite funny and interesting. More please!

Morgaln · Post by **Morgaln** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:06 pm

Urobolos wrote:
Xavier78 wrote:Yup, Minmax is still a complete moron. Unbelievably so too. Good to see that never changes... No offense, but I found nothing funny or remotely interesting this comic. *shrug* Maybe next time.
Yep, consistency of character and stats. Good to see that happen. I found this comic to be quite funny and interesting. More please!

I cannot agree. This, this and this show that Minmax is capable of far smarter solutions to problems than he is showing in the current strip. That is very inconsistent.

Kamos · Post by **Kamos** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:25 pm

He is, but he is also capable of the most profound stupidity available as we all know. This is just one of those moments.

JustRight · Post by **JustRight** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:46 pm

Minmax is painfully missing Forgath's influence to try to keep him out of trouble - they were a semi-balanced team. They were even better when they included Kin. It's hard to witness Minmax acting without counterbalance - THunt is rubbing it in how lost MM is without his teammates.

SpeaksManyLanguages · Post by **SpeaksManyLanguages** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:19 am

Yeah, I also didn't find this page hilarious or funny, this exact formula of "Minmax being continiously unable to understand the futility of his action, but still repeating it 3 times nonetheless, while Thaco and his son discuss it" was already used. So, it felt a bit deja vu. But still, the page is good, I like this better, than 3 jokes jammed into 1 page, like it was in the Forgath meets Bowst & Idle ones. Good stuff. Keep 'em coming.

Urobolos · Post by **Urobolos** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:35 am

SpeaksManyLanguages wrote:Yeah, I also didn't find this page hilarious or funny, this exact formula of "Minmax being continiously unable to understand the futility of his action, but still repeating it 3 times nonetheless, while Thaco and his son discuss it" was already used. So, it felt a bit deja vu. But still, the page is good, I like this better, than 3 jokes jammed into 1 page, like it was in the Forgath meets Bowst & Idle ones. Good stuff. Keep 'em coming.

Heh, that makes me wonder if they're going to be trying to sneak up on something when Minmax grabs his sword.

Sidewaysgts · Post by **Sidewaysgts** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:09 pm

As far as oblivious goes-

Id be surprised if minmax is even capable of initiating the thought process required to use oblivious for something non-combat related to get himself out of a situation.

Zathyr · Post by **Zathyr** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:41 pm

Minmax is often clever when combat's involved, and moronic otherwise.

SpeaksManyLanguages · Post by **SpeaksManyLanguages** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:58 am

Krulle wrote:But you're free to list them anyway!

One of ru-readers noticed another one: on the middle frames of the last row, one of the ropes holding Thaco's right hand is missing, the one that goes across diagonally. It's present in the last frame and in the first row.

SpeaksManyLanguages · Post by **SpeaksManyLanguages** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:12 pm

Colored version is up http://www.goblinscomic.org/06072015/
Although, it doesn't fix fangs or the ropes.

Zathyr · Post by **Zathyr** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:43 pm

Could be the ropes just happen to line up from the angle in those panels, one behind the other.

I think the action lines around struggling Minmax might look a little too hard with the face blurred like that. I'm not sure how it would look with softer lines, maybe thinner? Or maybe I just need to get used to it.

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